Once I first wrote about boomer shooters final yr on Steam Deck and likewise on Swap, except for New Blood and Nightdive, the most typical title was Andrew Hulshult who has finished some superb music over time. He not too long ago was concerned with the DOOM + DOOM II re-release that included his IDKFA soundtrack with new music for DOOM II, and having needed to interview him for some time now, I lastly had an opportunity to talk with him on name for a number of hours to debate sport soundtracks, composition, bands he likes, guitar strings, pickups, chilly brew espresso, his first movie soundtrack, video games he’s taking part in, and much more. This interview was finished on video name after which it was transcribed and edited for brevity. Identical to my interview with Dave Oshry from New Blood, this one was extra informal than traditional, and that is possible the longest interview on TouchArcade so strap in and seize a chilly brew.
TouchArcade (TA): So for these unaware, inform us a little bit bit about your self and what you do.
Andrew Hulshult (AH): Yeah, my title’s Andrew Hulshult. I’m a composer and sound designer for primarily video video games, however I’m beginning to transfer over into movie as properly. I like to only write music on my own typically when it’s not for a sport or movie. However that’s primarily what I do. I work within the sport and movie trade doing sound design, soundtracks, and typically voice performing.
TA: How did you find yourself engaged on the canceled Duke Nukem undertaking and likewise Rise of the Triad 2013?
AH: Duke Nukem 3D Reloaded was really simply form of like, I feel that was 2010. That’s, I’m reaching again right here a little bit bit. So I feel Frederik on the time, Frederik Schreiber, the man who runs 3D Realms now, or I feel he nonetheless does, mainly he was remaking maps in the course of Unreal Engine 3 of like among the unique Duke 3D maps and posting them on Gearbox boards, which I feel considered one of them that obtained a whole lot of hits was like the entire 3D renders of like Hollywood Holocaust, which is like E1M1 for Duke 3D. That caught my consideration as properly. I used to be like, wow, that appears actually neat. You recognize, like I reached out on the boards, I used to be like, hey, do you want any music? Possibly this could be enjoyable. Like, I actually favored Duke 3D again within the day. And he mentioned, yeah, certain. You recognize, like if you wish to remake among the stuff and hand it off to me.
So I simply did a few of that. I simply had gear laying round and I needed to form of learn to do that anyway. So I simply dove in head first and began form of remaking among the previous Duke 3D tracks. That form of spawned into, , not loads, not loads was finished in Duke 3D Reloaded. It was similar to, , like some odds and ends stuff. Someway that was Apogee, Terry Nagy, head looking us and saying, hey, I’ve an IP that I’d actually such as you to work on referred to as Rise of the Triad should you guys need to give it a strive. And he had an investor with him on the time who was named Dave Oshry And this was a really very long time in the past. And it’s loopy. Like all these individuals now are like, , on the, we had been all on the forefront of just like the retro FPS revival stuff.
However mainly after Duke 3D Reloaded, yeah, Apogee got here, mentioned, hey, we’re . And Fred mentioned sure on our facet. And we began making Rise of the Triad 2013.
TA: It was humorous you talked about Dave Oshry as a result of once I lastly obtained an interview with him, I feel it was simpler for me to satisfy Iron Maiden than get that interview, however after getting that finished, I had New Blood lined. I not too long ago additionally interviewed Nightdive about The Factor, however I wanted to finish the trifecta for boomer shooters: Andrew Hulshult. Now that’s lastly occurring.
We each chortle.
TA: I bear in mind in a previous interview you probably did, you talked about how whenever you had been doing the 3D realm stuff, you weren’t conscious of how a lot you had been in demand within the trade. So when that door closed, all of a sudden you had like a, like 1000’s of alternatives and stuff like that. However, and clearly you’ve gone on to do a few of like some enormous titles since then. Clearly Doom Everlasting DLC is the one which lots of people take into consideration you. For me, it’s like different titles like Nightmare Reaper and Nightfall and stuff like that. I need to understand how you’ve modified as a musician and as an expert from again then to now.
AH: Oh, that’s a terrific query. Man, beginning off within the trade with, , doing the entire stuff with Interceptor, like the place we had been, what we had been simply speaking about, it was a very contemporary expertise as a musician. So that you don’t know what you’re stepping into. After which a whole lot of occasions you’re like, I don’t even know what I needs to be getting paid, , like you’ve an thought, however you’re not, you don’t know. And so like wading via these waters is attention-grabbing and likewise harmful territory. However the stuff that I’ve realized has been all from, , tripping on agreements as you go ahead. You signal an settlement, you go for it, you make the cash, and on the again finish you’re both like, this didn’t actually work out, otherwise you’re like, hey, this labored out, we have to guarantee that we do that once more, .
It’s studying all the time. As a result of that is the factor that I really feel like musicians get hung up on loads, which is, , they only, they need to make actually, actually superior, lovely artwork for video games. And like, there’s completely nothing flawed with that. It is best to, that needs to be the core precept that you just do. However it’s important to just remember to receives a commission in an effort to proceed to do it. As a result of in any other case you burn your self out and also you don’t need to work within the trade anymore. And that, to return to what you had been speaking about with, I didn’t understand how a lot, like how in demand I used to be. I used to be proper at that time. I used to be about to stroll away from all the pieces proper after the entire stuff with 3D Realms. I used to be finished with video games. I used to be like, what, like there’s not a whole lot of avenues right here and I’m simply getting extra bitter as time goes on. And the final handful of issues I’ve labored on have simply bombed so why am I placing all this effort into this?
I ought to try to do one thing else. And I didn’t notice till I stepped out from 3D Realms how many individuals needed to rent me. And like, it’s a type of bizarre issues the place like, I’m certain you’ll be able to most likely relate. When you’ve a job, like a day job, should you’ve ever simply held like a easy, easy day job, you may get sucked into that whole cycle of that job and nothing else issues round.
So an instance of this could be, I labored for a music retailer for about 15 years, okay. I used to be doing properly for them. They needed to offer me my very own shops. I used to be engaged on administration. And the cycle that comes with that the place you get so wrapped up within the enterprise of that makes you lose focus of a number of different issues in life. And that’s form of what occurred to me whereas I used to be working with 3D Realms. That’s nothing unhealthy about them. It’s simply whenever you’re working for an organization slightly than working for your self, it turns into that.
From the begin to now has been like only a loopy studying course of. You do must stroll on landmines. You do must get blown up a few occasions till you determine what works and what doesn’t. Stepping out from 3D Realms after they mentioned, hey, we don’t have the money to pay you. It’s like, oh, okay, I suppose I’ll go determine this out now. After which rapidly, DUSK, , like that’s actually the following factor that and AMID EVIL had been the very subsequent issues that I labored on. It was loopy.
TA: Clearly you get a whole lot of questions on sport music, however what’s like, because you introduced up this complete factor about the way you’ve modified, what’s the largest false impression that folks each within the trade and just like the gamers have about video video games music proper now?
AH: The largest false impression. Oh, that anyone can do it and it’s a small half. laughs It’s like, you’ll be able to’t simply throw something in there. Like, man, it’s I’d say that from a public like standpoint of I don’t play video games that a lot and I’m informal form of factor, a few of my pals and a few of my household are like, you’ve the best job. I’m like, you haven’t any f***ing thought. You recognize, stroll in my sneakers for a day and let’s discuss once more. Yeah, it’s actually troublesome since you, you actually must trick your self into stepping into no matter ambiance or no matter world another person has painted already. Proper. Like they’ve already constructed all the pieces out. That is their imaginative and prescient. It’s a must to step into it and it’s important to step into it with respect to their design philosophies. And also you additionally must have the arrogance to say, properly, that is what I feel we should always do and why we should always do it. And there’s a whole lot of, there’s a whole lot of social confidence that’s wanted to do a gig like this.
It’s complicated in a whole lot of alternative ways. The artwork facet of it’s exhausting sufficient, like pulling shit out of skinny air, is troublesome already, however then, um, explaining to individuals why you need to go this path and typically even arguing to get that path could be a trouble in and of itself.
So yeah, I’d say the most important false impression is that it’s straightforward and that it’s not straightforward. I swear to God, so many occasions my pals are like, ah, you’ve obtained the best job. I’m like, no, man, I dwell, I, I threw 100 pound bins from 6 AM to 4 PM. And typically I miss that.
Whiskey and low fueled half of the @RiseoftheTriad OST. Most songs had been composed between 9pm and 3am.
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— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) September 30, 2015
TA: So I additionally need to discuss loads about your gear, however earlier than that, I feel we should always talk about among the sport particular issues. So let’s begin with ROTT 2013. I’ve simply despatched you a tweet proper now, which I needed to reference. That is fairly an previous one (linked above). Properly, I really didn’t know a lot about this soundtrack till not too long ago. I had heard about it and I had heard that a whole lot of my pals purchased that launch. They mentioned that it wasn’t that nice. I performed the unique on DOS however not the 2013 model, so I didn’t actually hear all of it in-game till the Ludicrous Version and when of us made an enormous deal about it having Andrew Hulshult’s music. I made a decision I needed to correctly strive it then. I needed to speak about your thought course of between like, , redoing these tracks and arising with your individual flare on them, as a result of anybody who, no less than any fan of yours, in the event that they take heed to that, they understand it’s your music. It’s not like, oh, this is rather like him doing a canopy of another person. It nonetheless feels prefer it’s you.
AH: The at the start factor was to be sure to respect your elders. I needed to guarantee that no matter I did clearly served the fanbase and by proxy served all the pieces that Lee Jackson had written. Lee Jackson and Bobby Prince, so far as I’m involved, that’s the de facto composers for FPS. The originators. You’re already entering into one thing properly established again within the day. Individuals are very accustomed to this. For those who f*** it up, you might be toast. That was my first skilled gig. Entering into that form of strain.
Simply actually what it got here to, it was all actually pure. I heard these songs and I noticed the sport and what they’re making and I’m like it’s kinda jank, however it’s enjoyable. It’s ridiculous. ROTT is so ridiculous. I used to be like man, I used to be speaking to Dave and Fred about it. What if we did like rock and metallic stuff predominantly? That’s the form of music I take heed to on a regular basis. They mentioned let’s strive it. Even Terry was like you must do it.
Actually they only kinda gave me free reign to offer it a strive on a few of these issues. The primary one I did as a demo to work on it was “Goin Down the Quick Method” and I bear in mind I handed that to Terry. Terry is superior and he has been nice to me for my whole profession. By no means had a foul piece of recommendation from him. He’s the CCO for Apogee by the way in which. I bear in mind handing him the very first demo of “Goin Down the Quick Method”. His remark coming again to me was “It’s in the correct path nevertheless it appears like a diarrhea of sound” As a result of it wasn’t blended appropriately. I used to be simply excited handy him one thing. I used to be like okay that is a type of moments the place I’m going to must learn to settle for suggestions even when it’s not from a musician and I do know that they imply properly. I remixed a few issues and I feel that is what he was speaking about and I despatched it again to him and he mentioned it was means higher and it was superior. Okay cool, this man doesn’t simply hate me.
It form of simply got here from the center. All of the soundtracks I work on, it’s me. Even whether it is entering into another person’s sneakers, I’ve to keep in mind that the supply materials comes first, then you definately put your influences on. So the supply materials is the construction of the home however you’ll be able to put up no matter partitions you need and paint on it, and dangle and embellish, however simply guarantee that the home continues to be the identical home that folks bear in mind.
Now to deal with the Tweet above, Whiskey and low fueled half of the Rise of the Triad soundtrack. Most songs had been composed between 9 p.m. and three a.m. That’s true. Right here’s one little tidbit with it too. Terry Nagy, the man I used to be speaking about, the CCO from Apogee, he would often take me all the way down to a bar referred to as Hula Arms. And he would purchase the drinks after which he would simply take me residence and be like, “Alright, now go write some extra songs.” It was superior. I miss these days.
TA: This jogs my memory of that one monitor in IDKFA the place you used a tremolo to duplicate a selected sound and it was the right strategy to do it.
AH: That was Darkish Halls in DOOM. It has the tremolo guitar that’s speculated to be the rolling bass synth from that sound. I like that track.
TA: After ROTT 2013, one other sport I didn’t actually play till not too long ago was Bombshell and I actually solely purchased that sport due to your soundtrack. I obtained it once I was researching boomer shooters for an article and was trying on the video games I don’t personal. I purchased it and didn’t actually look after a lot of it, however the music was nice. I form of consider that soundtrack with Nightmare Reaper the place they really feel like simply metallic albums from Andrew Hulshult slightly than devoted sport soundtracks. Was this the purpose in your profession the place you realized you’re actually good at bringing metallic into these sorts of video games? It felt like a turning level.
AH: That’s that’s a terrific query too like really yeah like proper round that point I used to be experimenting loads with simply making large atmospheric like synth stuff and like orchestral as you’ll be able to hear on that soundtrack should you obtained far sufficient, laughs, but additionally like for the for the larger fights and stuff, I actually needed to begin dialing up my very own sound and my very own writing and I’d already finished the quilt stuff I needed to need to present individuals what what I may do and so yeah that’s form of actually the place my introduction to love my very own unique items began coming into place, so yeah that’s really proper. I by no means even thought of that that’s the place that began and likewise like I imply I gosh that’s if I give it some thought, that was 2013 is the tip of 2013 is when improvement began on that, and it initially began as a Duke Nukem sport earlier than the lawsuit, and I had an eight string by that point. I used to be tuning down large time at that time, and there’s a whole lot of stuff that by no means made it possibly I’ll put that up on Twitter sooner or later however there’s a whole lot of stuff that by no means by no means confirmed up on it as a result of it was a little bit too aggressive however that stuff would later present up in DOOM . laughs
TA: When simply discovering your music a few years in the past, all the pieces was actually good metallic, and this was most likely across the time I used to be primarily listening to metallic earlier than I began broadening my horizons. I went via this part once I was studying guitar and I began listening to extra Dream Theater after which obtained a seven string guitar, and finally obtained into Meshuggah. It obtained me fascinated about how once I take heed to your music now, you handle doing distinctive issues for every sport and make the songs match the sport correctly. It isn’t simply metallic anymore so there’s no fear about being typecast. Did you’ve that worry that everybody is simply going to anticipate metallic from you whenever you’re behind a selected soundtrack?
AH: Oh man. You simply saying that simply out loud makes me wow. I nonetheless fear about that typically. There are moments the place I’m like am I getting typecast at this level, and also you saying, yeah I don’t have to fret about that anymore, I’m like oh thank god I heard it from another person the place they had been like, as a result of I don’t need to be like I don’t need to be like straight up referred to as metallic man like I like metallic I like taking part in it I’ll make these information all day lengthy as individuals so long as individuals will take heed to it and even when they gained’t I’ll most likely make them, however yeah I like to color with totally different brushes like particularly once I become older, like I actually take pleasure in mixing sound design with guitars.
I like mixing sound design with orchestral devices, I like simply going full hand on my Eurorack synth stuff over right here and simply getting misplaced. As a musician I’m lucky sufficient at this level the place I can simply experiment, and I do know I can discover, I’ve the arrogance now after engaged on all these video games and having some success with it the place I do know if I get misplaced I can discover a means out as a result of I’ll discover one thing that I like, and likelihood is if I prefer it, I can most likely present it to some individuals who will dig it as properly. I’m so glad to listen to that you just’re like I do know that I can get some selection. laughs
TA: I imply if somebody simply heard DUSK and I’d say in the event that they heard DUSK even that’s fairly totally different. I imply if somebody’s not into metallic possibly they assume nightfall sounds the identical as bombshell however you’ll be able to completely inform that DUSK was making an attempt to be like this center floor of what you want and 9 Inch Nails’ Quake. I feel it has considered one of my favourite guitar tones in gaming proper now, and it’s nonetheless fairly timeless. I need to transfer to AMID EVIL. I like the soundtrack to the primary sport, however I need to ask in regards to the DLC for 2 causes. Now the very first thing is form of like a private matter as a result of I consider you had been going via a household emergency through the time whenever you had been recording the soundtrack, proper? Once I was taking part in Dragon Quest VIII on the 3DS and my grandfather was within the hospital earlier than he handed away, every time I take into consideration Dragon Quest VIII now it jogs my memory of that. So do you undergo the identical factor with the AMID EVIL DLC music?
AH: I don’t assume I’ve been in a position to sit down and digest it that means but. However I do know precisely what you’re speaking about and I’m certain that’s what I’ll completely undergo. Yeah, to harp again to what you’re speaking about, to what you’re referencing, my father had a coronary heart assault. And it was simply out of nowhere. And it was on, gosh, I feel it was on New Yr’s Eve. It was like 9 PM on New Yr’s Eve. It was the yr earlier than it was launched And I used to be midway, I used to be like halfway via engaged on that soundtrack. And it simply scared the shit out of me. As anyone would. Your father’s dying And he ended up having like a, all 4 valves round his coronary heart had been like 90-95% clogged. So yeah, he needed to have a quadruple bypass. And fortunately, We’ve got a very, actually good coronary heart hospital proper subsequent to us. And so they’re at an age now the place they’re on Medicare. I feel it’s Medicare. I can’t bear in mind. It’s like when you’re previous 64 at a sure age on this nation, you may get on Medicare. And , like well being stuff isn’t as a lot of a nightmare because it usually is. However they obtained nice care, obtained taken care of. However it was months.
It took months for all that stuff to occur. And there’s like so many issues that occurred in between that. Like this was proper in the course of COVID. So like every time he obtained, it was proper in the course of the large Omicron spike for the world. In order quickly as he obtained admitted, he couldn’t get to an precise emergency room. He needed to sit in one other room for like two or three days they usually really needed to sedate him for a number of days earlier than they might switch him to a different hospital to get checked out. Prefer it was simply loopy. And I used to be out of my thoughts. I used to be loopy at that time. And so as soon as they obtained to some extent the place they mentioned we’re going to do surgical procedure and he got here out of surgical procedure, I simply wanted one thing to occupy myself. In any other case, I used to be going to self-destruct.
So I began writing loads on the AMID EVIL stuff and began actually discovering that previous like taking part in with a band and writing songs for you form of vibe getting into. And a whole lot of that stuff in a AMID EVIL, the stuff that’s like obtained a whole lot of vitality behind it, that’s fairly private for me. There’s a whole lot of feelings on that soundtrack. There’s additionally one thing else that I haven’t talked about in public but and I’m not going to speak about it right here that I began engaged on that has a whole lot of that as properly. And that’ll nonetheless be some time earlier than that pops up. However I’d say that that was my major outlet for some time. You’ve gotten one thing to stay up for.
However yeah, like that soundtrack let’s wrap it up. That soundtrack did have a whole lot of rigidity and a whole lot of feelings tied to my father virtually passing away and me making an attempt to wrap my head round that. You’re proper. I hadn’t thought of that.
TA: The opposite factor in regards to the AMID EVIL DLC is that this particular track I need to contact on: Splitting Time. This track is attention-grabbing for a number of causes. It jogs my memory of a few of my favourite sport trailers just like the track used within the Nioh 2 launch trailer, I’m undecided should you’ve seen it. However extra attention-grabbing than that’s I used to be taking part in Avenue Fighter 6 with a buddy of mine and listening to this within the background and he requested me if I used to be listening to Killer Intuition music? I mentioned it was the AMID EVIL DLC and he needed to know who made it. It jogged my memory fairly a little bit of Mick Gordon’s non DOOM music. We spoke about Killer Intuition and my buddy mentioned “they need to get Andrew for a brand new Killer Intuition album” and I needed to ask if Killer Intuition influenced that track?
AH: No I didn’t really. However there is likely to be little hints of that backwards and forwards as a result of gosh, there are moments once I went again to that Killer Intuition reboot as a result of I assumed Mick did such a terrific job on it. The place I’m like, man, the manufacturing right here is strictly what I’ve been making an attempt to do for like a handful of years, And like that soundtrack was simply actually inspiring to take heed to. I feel he’s simply, he’s an excellent composer.
TA: That’s one other sport I purchased due to the soundtrack as a result of once I performed DOOM 2016, I used to be like I must play extra video games with this man’s finished the music for and everybody was like Killer Intuition. I used to be like I’ve by no means heard this. I didn’t personal an N64. What the hell is that this sport? I purchased it and favored the music much more than the sport.
AH: That complete soundtrack slaps, man. He did a implausible job on that.
Whenever you notice @AndrewHulshult put his complete bussy into the Nightmare Reaper OST as an alternative of saving it for DUSK 2 pic.twitter.com/tU1AsySok0
— Dave @ Dwelling (@DaveOshry) October 11, 2023
TA: OK, so now let’s go to Nightmare Reaper a bit. I already talked about how this may very well be your individual metallic album. I don’t even assume it must be associated to this sport. And that is one other sport I simply purchased as a result of the music was so good. And I used to be like there’s form of like this disconnect between what I anticipated within the sport and after I heard the music, as a result of I heard the music earlier than taking part in the sport and I used to be like, OK, I must get used to this. However so earlier than I ask you about your thought course of between doing the music, I need to simply deliver up this different tweet (linked above) from New Blood’s Dave Oshry, which is attention-grabbing for Nightmare Reaper. Once I noticed that Tweet, I knew I needed to deliver it up every time I interviewed you sooner or later and right here we’re.
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AH: Every time Bruno reached out to me, Bruno is the developer of Nightmare Reaper. Every time he reached out to me, we simply actually began speaking about a few of our favourite bands and we’d simply go off backwards and forwards as a result of he confirmed me a sport that he was making. I used to be like, “That appears cool.” I used to be like, “Properly, let me know should you’re ever .” After which we simply began speaking about music. He’s like, “Would you be all for working with me on this?” And I mentioned, “Yeah, I feel that might be cool.” And he actually was like, “I simply need this to be like a metallic document from you.” I used to be like, “Actually?” He was like, “Yeah.” He’s like, “You’ve obtained good influences.” He’s like, “I simply need it to sound such as you simply made a straight metallic document.” I used to be like, “Properly, it might’t be simply that.” I used to be like, “However it’ll be largely that.” You continue to want to love, we have to, it must nonetheless be for a sport. As a result of in any other case you’d have me, , screaming over high of all the pieces as properly.
However yeah, it’s fairly near one thing I might have written at the moment. You recognize, as you go along with a, as time strikes on, tastes change. And , however like at the moment, for certain, that’s what you’d have gotten for a metallic document. I feel that’s fairly shut, yeah.
TA: How do you handle doing that and likewise retaining the soundtrack dynamic for a sport then?
AH: Um, play via it a whole lot of occasions the place you’ll be able to work out the place you’ll be able to have rests and lulls. And the place any individual’s gonna presumably simply stroll round and search for issues. After which attempt to write one thing that you just your self wouldn’t become bored with. And that’s nonetheless attention-grabbing by way of like, , like an ambient monitor or like a low vitality monitor that also strikes a little bit bit. Simply music to discover to, proper? After which try to make a chunk that enhances what that’s, however is tremendous excessive vitality or, uh, simply increased vitality for it. So like, in order that these two can work collectively. You actually have to consider it as like, you’re gluing two or three totally different items collectively. As a result of like Prodeus has like three items.
It has an ambient, it has a lightweight fight, and it has a heavy fight. And so they’re structured in triggers all through that sport. So I’ve to consider how this ambient works with this low fight track after which work with this excessive fight track. Or this heavy fight track. And do all of them transfer properly between one another, um, should you had been to only crossfade them at random occasions, ? As a result of that’s what the engine goes to do. So yeah, it’s like, I don’t know, you simply, you gotta take a type of items of music, construct it out first, after which take into consideration the opposite piece.
TA: Because you introduced up Prodeus, that was the following sport I used to be going to ask about. I don’t even bear in mind what occurred with Prodeus when it launched on Steam, as a result of I bear in mind being despatched a code for it and simply tried it out for overview, however was blown away by the music. I bear in mind I even joked about that when I wrote about boomer shooters. On the time, it felt like all the pieces boomer shooters was all about New Blood, Nightdive, and Andrew Hulshult. So Prodeus appears like metallic, industrial, bass heavy, and punchier basically. It really works properly with the aesthetic however I feel Cables and Chaos is my favourite. You’ve spoken loads about Prodeus, however I needed to know what your favourite monitor is from that and whether or not you may give us an attention-grabbing anecdote from composing which individuals may not find out about?
AH: Cables and Chaos is certainly my favourite one. Like, for certain. Like, that was the second. Um, so, like, they initially solely needed me to work on, like, the music that first shipped. Not lots of people know that I went via, like, this complete nightmare the place I needed to pull all the soundtrack down throughout all the, like, all this digital distribution and put it again up with all of the songs as a result of initially there was solely, like, ten items of music with Prodeus. After which after they had been getting nearer to launch they had been like, “Hey, we need to… we need to… we would like, like, ten extra.” And I used to be like, “Oh, uh, okay. Properly, I’ve already put out the soundtrack.
We already agreed on this, so that is bizarre.” So, um, they confirmed me what else they had been engaged on by way of, like, the degrees and all the pieces that I hadn’t seen and I used to be like, “Good lord, these look unbelievable!” So I obtained actually impressed with that and made a ton of actually simply extra aggressive items of music which was issues like Chaoscaster, Cables and Chaos, uh…I’m simply making an attempt to consider the opposite ones. Dystopian Dimension.
That complete soundtrack is superior. Like, that complete soundtrack, like, it was in-built an attention-grabbing time the place it’s…it was… half of it was pre-pandemic and the opposite half was throughout isolation throughout pandemic. So, it’s obtained these actually attention-grabbing tangents of, uh, the second half of the document’s far more aggressive than the primary half. Simply because, like, I don’t know, I used to be at residence and I’m like, I can’t get something out. Like, by way of my outlet, I can’t exit. I can’t do that. So, like, all of my vitality was targeted on how aggressive can I make the remainder of this, ? Like, after which we lastly get to place it out. I feel that was 2022.
Right here’s one factor from Prodeus that I assumed was tremendous neat. So, Spent Gasoline is likely one of the solely occasions that I’ve been…Properly, it was one of many first occasions I’d finished it for the time being. The place I’d taken an thought and I used to be like, how do I write an idea round this? And actually, like, the map they confirmed me was simply, , inexperienced sludge and radiated bullshit in every single place. It regarded like Chernobyl. And, um…I used to be like, man, I actually need to discover methods to take issues like Geiger counters, uh, and, uh, pulses from, from, uh, from fission reactions and, like, possibly even the sound of the, uh, the flash that occurs within the video every time they’re testing the atomic bomb stuff. Like, something that’s gamma or uh, radiation that’s audible, I need to take that and make a chunk of music with it. So, there actually are all of these issues in that piece of…that piece of music. So, there may be the sound of a nuclear reactor turning on, doing what’s referred to as a pulse, uh, for the primary time. And that’s really utilized in a part of the beat. The Geiger counters used as parts of the beat that form of appears like a drum machine a little bit bit.
I reversed the sound of, uh, the atomic bomb, the preliminary flash hitting the digicam, making this “bzzz” sound. I reversed that and made it pulse backwards and forwards via the beat. After which, , afterward the music is like a whole lot of guitar stuff to go along with it and all the pieces, however all that stuff that’s occurring with the synthesizer is all based mostly round, , like radiation. And I used to be like, “Ah, that is cool!”
Every time I obtained finished with it, I used to be like, “Lastly!” I had an thought, like an idea thought for a chunk of music that stems from like an actual life factor and put all of it collectively. In order that was like, that’s one of many standout moments for me on that soundtrack. I used to be actually happy with that.
TA: Are you able to say something in regards to the DLC music or is that simply as much as the devs for them to launch?
AH: Uh, that’s as much as the devs for them.
TA: Something that’s totally different or attention-grabbing or ought to we simply anticipate one other banger soundtrack?
AH: I’m undecided in the event that they’re going to make use of the bottom sport stuff or if they need me to work on something new. I’ve my suspicions that they’ll give me a shout most likely someplace within the close to future, however I haven’t heard from them but.
TA: I feel in a current interview the place you spoke in regards to the Iron Lung soundtrack, which you’re doing, clearly you’ll be able to’t discuss a lot about it, however I, don’t need to know in regards to the soundtrack particularly, I’ll look ahead to the film to come back out, however I need to know three issues: How is it engaged on a film soundtrack? How is it working with Markiplier? How has the finances obtainable for the soundtrack modified the way you’re in a position to strategy music composition?
AH: So the primary one was, how’s it engaged on a film soundtrack? Utterly totally different. Like, I assumed that, I assumed that I’d be capable of stroll in and simply be like, “Eh, this gained’t, this’ll be easy.” Oh. Like, it’s simply as difficult as the sport stuff, however in a very totally different path. The place I might know precisely to speak to a developer about “Let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s try this.” I can try this with Mark, however they’re utterly totally different conversations. One is, , I do know precisely what’s speculated to be occurring within the sport right here, that is, , you’re selecting up this weapon, otherwise you’re, this journey is going on in entrance of you, that is the tone. The opposite is a movie that I could get one thing out of, however Mark could also be intending for a unique emotion. So now we have to speak about these issues backwards and forwards earlier than I make a chunk of music. So it’s actually attention-grabbing. It’s a enjoyable problem, to be trustworthy with you.
The second was working with Mark? Mark is superior. He’s a lot enjoyable to work with. He hears issues that I don’t hear, uh, brings issues up in, in my very own music, the place I’m like, “Oh, I didn’t even take into consideration that.” And he’s very a lot, um, a musician with out, like, being a musician. Like, he doesn’t, he doesn’t write, like, so far as I do know, he doesn’t write a bunch of music, like, on the common, however he understands it very, very properly. And can, uh, often make choices once I hand him a chunk of music, and he’s like, “Okay, that is, , typically we should lower these backwards and forwards, however I promise you, like, like, to make it work for a scene.” He’s like, “However I promise you, we’ll do it as finest as we are able to, or I’ll do it as finest as I can.” I’m like, “Uh, , like, possibly I ought to simply recompose the scene.” And each time he cuts one thing to, like, presumably make it, like, a tiny bit shorter, I’m like, “No, that’s precisely what I might have finished. Like, how are you this good at enhancing these items?” Like, it’s, it blows my thoughts. Um, so he’s been implausible to work with.
The third is in regards to the finances for the film soundtrack and the way it modifications the way it impacts composition? Budgets had been loads larger. I’ll simply, I’ll simply preserve it at that. They had been, they had been, they had been a lot larger. Um, simply due to how a lot, it wasn’t, like, attributable to, um, , like, “Oh, you’re engaged on a movie now.” It was, it was due to how a lot music we went via. Um, I wrote demos with them on the set. So, like, they flew me all the way down to Austin and Mark mentioned, “Hey, , why don’t you simply write music whereas I’m doing scenes?” I’m like, “Wow, that sounds really actually, actually f***ing cool, yeah.” So, I might go down there about as soon as each two weeks and spend about two or three days there, simply sitting at, uh, sitting out entrance whereas they’re, they’re doing scenes, and I’d be writing music with my headphones, simply watching on a monitor, , what’s occurring in entrance of me, like, 50 ft in entrance of me. And so, there was a ton of music from that, and there’s much more music that got here afterwards that we wrote, and actually, um, I’m really about to leap on a name as a result of I feel they want yet one more, yet one more piece of music.
I’m gonna leap on a name in like two hours, ’trigger I feel they want yet one more piece of music. Um, nevertheless it’s, it’s simply been loads. There’s loads there. And it’s selecting the feelings that go the place. So, like, there could be, I wrote all these songs for, , um, catching a vibe of despair, and these songs for catching a vibe of anger, and these vibes for rigidity, and this, and this, and now we have this big palette to only select from and decide the place we would like issues to go, and that’s what, that’s what Mark’s been doing. So, yeah, it’s, it’s just about, I imply, financially, the very same factor as, that I might agree on with video games, nevertheless it’s simply, there’s the quantity that, like, we’ve finished with stuff is like, whoa, that’s loads! So, yeah.
So, yeah, it’s been nice. It’s helped me out a ton. I’d like to work with Mark once more after this.
TA: Going out of your first film soundtrack, let’s discuss your first chiptune album, which was Nightfall 82. So, was that really the primary time you probably did any form of chiptune remixing or composition or association, I ought to say?
AH: Yeah, the primary actual one, like, I imply, like, you could possibly, you could possibly argue that, like, the Rad Rodgers stuff has a few of that on there, however that’s, like, nearer to synth wave greater than the rest, I really feel like. And, like, that form of retro really feel. So, yeah, this was the primary actual time that I, like, approached, like, a chiptune. Like, that is, it’s important to keep inside these boundaries of restricted know-how. And it was actually, like, , select your, select your sine wave. Would you like, you need sine, or select your audio wave. Would you like sine, sq., or, , triangle? So, it’s one of many three. Simply constructing, like, drum kits based mostly off of that and, like, white noise and all the pieces. And, yeah, that was, that was attention-grabbing.
Like, when David approached me about that, I used to be like, “You wanna do what?” You recognize, like, utterly make, like, the Nightfall soundtrack and chiptunes of, like, why don’t we simply, like, select a handful of, like, the hits and go from there. Like, those that folks bear in mind probably the most, ? And that was enjoyable. Uh, that was tremendous cool. Simply bouncing these backwards and forwards off Dave and David. However, yeah, that was, that was the primary time I ever did that. And it was, it was fairly cool. I’m glad individuals prefer it.
TA: I feel, uh, Nightfall 82 was, like, this free pre-order bonus with the Nintendo Swap launch. So once I began taking part in that, I used to be like, “Wait, did they really do that for the soundtrack?” After which I regarded it up and I’m like, “After all they did!” I do know clearly you’re, like, tremendous busy with, like, a ton of tasks, however should you had, like, limitless time and sources, would you do a chiptune demake of any of your different albums? And should you would, which one would you decide?
AH: Gosh. Which one could be probably the most attention-grabbing is absolutely the, uh, the query there. I feel the one that might be probably the most attention-grabbing if I had been to do this could be most likely AMID EVIL. As a result of there’s a lot occurring in a few of these, it will be, it will be a whole lot of enjoyable to return and, like, hear a few of these melodies which might be, like, on, like, all string sections and stuff, and right here I’m taking all the way in which all the way down to, like, 8-bit, ? I feel that that might match very well too. However yeah, if cash wasn’t a problem. Yeah, and time. Time’s the most important one there.
TA: Talking of money and time, I used to be going to ask you about remastering considered one of your previous soundtracks, like bringing it to the fashionable Andrew Hulshult sound. You talked about that you just’d do ROTT 2013 in the event that they paid you to remaster it.
AH: There’s a ton of labor concerned in that. Doing that only for IDKFA was a ton of labor. Like, that was months of getting that collectively. Um, yeah, I’d love to do this for ROTT if Apogee could be all for it, however, like, it’s a time factor greater than the rest. I feel it’s a time factor for them, and it’s a time factor for me. I imply, they’re actually down the road, so, like, they will open up that dialog anytime they need, and it’s only a matter of when, ? When’s the correct time.
TA: WRATH: Aeon of Damage, I feel is a sport you composed a very long time in the past, no less than in gaming, like, a number of years in the past, and it lastly launched this yr. That’s a soundtrack the place if anybody hears it, I feel they most likely wouldn’t anticipate it to be you after they take heed to the soundtrack, and that’s one of many issues I like about it, as a result of right here, like, he does extra than simply metallic, like, you want to get that into your head, like, that appears like a type of issues. How was it engaged on that soundtrack?
AH: It was attention-grabbing backwards and forwards. Jeremiah, the developer on that, the unique developer, at first, I feel he’ll be okay with me saying this, at first we didn’t, we didn’t see eye to eye on issues, as a result of I needed straight up, like, virtually no guitar in any respect, Quake, Like, that is what you’re going for, that is the viewers, we have to harp even additional into this, and he needed some guitar blended in there, and like, we might butt heads backwards and forwards on it fairly a bit, till we lastly got here to love a mutual understanding, and I began listening to him out a little bit bit extra, and he began listening to me out, and I used to be like, okay, okay, I feel we’re all good on this.
However yeah, it was, that one was a little bit, a little bit extra powerful, simply because the, like, the event cycle was, wasn’t, , as individuals know, like, didn’t, it didn’t go as nice, like, in direction of about midway via, possibly a little bit, even a little bit sooner than that, and I may see a few of that taking place in actual time, simply because I do know all these guys, so like, it was unavoidable.
In order that’s, that’s exhausting to make artwork for when that the product itself is having some issues. However I feel Christalynne Pyle did a superb job with wrapping all the pieces up in direction of the tip of it, which was a process in and of itself, for certain. However, I don’t know, there have been some bizarre concepts pitched on the market at one level, the place like, I feel Fred needed like, like straight up, like actually excessive metallic tracks at one level. I feel they even had a trailer at one level the place I used to be like, this isn’t the tone of this sport. I don’t know the place you guys discovered that music, however like, that is, this isn’t that.
However I’m glad that all the pieces in the long run was in a position to have some cohesiveness and, and meld collectively. I actually want that we had time to do some motion tracks, like, for that sport. Like, I really feel like there are moments the place that might have, that might have been useful, but additionally on the similar time, that’s an enormous what if. You recognize, like, as a result of there’s two issues that it’s important to take into accounts. Which is, that’s the Quake engine. It’s just like the OG Quake engine. You recognize, what are the constraints that we’re working with right here? Can we dynamically swap music, and is it going to work properly, simply in addition to you’ve heard in different titles? And quantity two, um, would that take individuals out of it?
As a result of all people remembers just like the OG Quake having like, , each map had its track. Properly, I say that. It was a disc operating that simply performed a bunch of music. However mainly, each map had a track for it. So, yeah, there’s, there’s a handful of issues there. However I just like the soundtrack. I feel it’s cool. I feel it’s, it’s, it’s obtained some actually attention-grabbing moments in it the place like, considered one of them the place I used to be, I simply mentioned, “F*** it, no matter. We’re gonna, we’re gonna bow a guitar via a bunch of pedals and see what that comes out like.” That’s considered one of my favourite items from that. I feel that’s in direction of the tip. However, um, yeah, it was a little bit little bit of a battle, however I’m glad I nonetheless went via it. I had enjoyable, and I feel that everyone that labored on it was fairly happy with it by the tip.
TA: Now, DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. How did it really feel for you doing IDKFA and now doing official DOOM music? Like, it’s your soundtrack with David Levy? Did id Software program really discuss to you about IDKFA beforehand?
AH: I do know that IDKFA was, was handed round that studio a complete bunch, trigger I, I’d get, um, DMs from folks that work there that are actually, like, I think about nice pals, the place they’d attain out in, like, 2015, and 2016, and, like, all the way in which again as 2014, the place they’d be saying, , hey, I’m working at id proper now, I simply need you to know that I’m listening to your, to your music whereas I work, and I used to be at all times similar to, oh, holy cow, that’s loopy, ? Um, and I, , way back to that, I used to be similar to, hey, should you ever, , should you ever, should you ever want music, let me know, ? So, however, like, by no means, by no means, , like, pushing like, the button or the boundaries, trigger like, I feel it was introduced that Mick was engaged on there in, like, 2015? Like, it was just like the yr earlier than, or one thing like that, after they actually began exhibiting among the music, and I used to be like, oh, they’ve, they’ve, they’ve obtained that dealt with, okay, cool. So, um, however I used to be at all times all for, to find a, a strategy to work with that studio, trigger I like DOOM, and, like, it’s actually is, like, the core of my DNA desirous to work in video games, is DOOM, and like, Duke 3D, um, so, yeah,
I at all times needed to work with them, and IDKFA, I kinda checked out virtually as a resume, like, I used to be like, I’m gonna put this on the market, if it will get widespread sufficient, it’ll communicate for itself, and it did precisely that, as a result of, uh, in, gosh, that was, that was proper at, like, quarter one, quarter two of 2020, when, after they approached me, I feel it was, really it was, I feel it was quarter two of 2020, and mentioned, hey, we, uh, we’re able the place we want, we want music, the place we want music, and, uh, we want it rapidly, and would you be as much as the duty for this? They totally had been, they knew what they had been asking was, was a tall order, in a brief time frame, they usually mentioned, , we are able to completely use the bottom sport stuff, however we needed to no less than attain out and, and ask you, as a result of we, we really feel like we are able to belief you, trigger I, I’d made relationships with, with, uh, with Marty, some gentle ones with Hugo, with Chad Mossholder, their sound man, I knew all of these individuals by then, and, um, I used to be like, hey, what, it’s, it’s like 35 or 40 days, f*** it, we, let’s do it, it was like, this appears like a problem, I’m completely up for it, and, , I needed to preserve my composure all the time, however within the inside I’m like, oh my god, , like, I’m engaged on an official DOOM sport, uh, and when, however after we obtained finished with that, like, I don’t know, it’s a type of bizarre moments the place you go, holy cow, we went from, uh, , a mod undertaking, uh, all the way in which to the official factor, and it’s simply, it’s insane, it’s, it’s loopy, I preserve operating into these parts of my profession, I hope they by no means cease, there are, one thing at all times surprises me like that.
TA: I feel it’s protected to imagine that lots of people who inform you they love your music deliver up Blood Swamps from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. As a result of I feel each particular person I see on YouTube is like, everybody’s simply doing Blood Swamps, it looks as if the preferred factor and all, and for you that’s most likely a bizarre feeling as a result of you’ve this track which lots of people love or one thing which you’re actually happy with, however you’ll be able to’t stream it or purchase it legally. Are you able to touch upon that in any type? What do you inform individuals who ask about shopping for your music from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC?
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AH: Properly, Bethesda and id personal all that stuff, they paid me properly for it, so like I used to be pleased to do all that, um, that’s not like a bullshit PR factor, like, for actual, they took care of me. They personal all that, so , in the event that they, in the event that they ever select to place that stuff out, that might be superior, I’d completely embrace it and get behind it with that, however typically studios try this, typically they don’t, and it’s simply utterly as much as their name, however I’ll inform you that they haven’t any drawback with you, , grabbing it off YouTube or something like that, so try this to your coronary heart’s content material, throw it in your telephone, no matter you need to do, they only, they’re simply glad that you just just like the stuff, and so am I, to be trustworthy, however hey, hopefully in the future we are able to get an official launch, like, that might be cool.
TA: Yeah, as a result of I’ve the DOOM 2016 vinyl soundtrack, and I’d like to have DOOM Everlasting music on vinyl as properly. Anyway that’s one thing I’ve been fascinated about as a result of it’s most likely a troublesome state of affairs so that you can be in, as a result of individuals would who need to help you, like, clearly they will purchase DOOM Everlasting and purchase the DLC and stuff like that, nevertheless it’s an unlucky state of affairs for followers, is all, like, I’ll go away it at that.
AH: It’s probably not like a bizarre state of affairs in any respect. I’m completely okay with no matter, Bethesda and id need to do with that, as a result of they had been utterly up entrance, they’re like, we’re gonna personal this, what we select to do with that’s…Yeah, yeah, and I used to be like, yeah, that’s high quality, I simply need to assist, I need to make like, a cool DLC for everyone that’s caught at residence, and I need to write like, some kick-ass music for it. And, so there’s no emotions of like, , oh, that is bizarre as a result of this isn’t out, or something like that.
I do know individuals are gonna rip it out of the sport, I do know, like, so do they, and like, that’s high quality. However, , hopefully, I wish to see an official launch in the future, however that’s utterly as much as them, and I’ll respect no matter they need to do, as a result of they’ve been nothing however superior.
TA: Now let’s simply discuss Blood Swamps for a bit, as a result of like, everybody loves the riffs and stuff like that, so, what was your thought course of in creating that track? Did they ask you to make one thing that match with the bottom sport or inform you to only go wild and be Andrew with the music?
AH: They instructed me to go wild and simply be me, which I used to be like, that felt fairly harmful to me, as a result of I used to be like, man, the, , what’s established right here from Mick? I’m like, that’s fairly sturdy. Like, that’d be like any individual strolling into one other DUSK soundtrack, , like, for the Indie Shooter, after which being like, we’re gonna do all synthwave, , like, no, that’s not how that works. It’s a must to serve what got here earlier than you. It’s a must to present respect to what got here earlier than you. And that’s actually essential for the followers earlier than anyone else. Doesn’t matter with an govt producer, doesn’t matter with the musician, doesn’t matter with the artist. It’s for the followers. Like, it’s important to guarantee that no matter you’re going to do goes to, they’re gonna go, okay, cool, yeah, I perceive, , why you selected this. So actually, for me, it after they had been like, hey, you simply be you, do no matter you need, what you assume serves Doom one of the best. I used to be like, properly, that’s a no brainer. I’m gonna, I’m gonna, , I’m gonna supply some inspiration from 2016 and Everlasting, after which write what I might need to write.
So, the colours that I’m portray with are acquainted, however the writing that I’m utilizing, what I’m utilizing to color, or the image I’m portray is totally different. So there’s some familiarity there. As a result of, , like, Blood Swamps is kind of a bit totally different than stuff that you’d hear on 2016 or Everlasting. It’s a little bit bit extra, that is, uh, that is like virtually like a conventional metallic track. And like, in reality, uh, I bear in mind handing that over to Chad the primary time and him being like, “Oh, metallic. Alright.” And I used to be like, “Actually? That’s like, you’re stunned. However, um, the, uh, it’s just a bit bit extra virtually conventional. However, um, yeah, there’s, like, it was good having David and Chad to bounce stuff off of. As a result of the place I might hand them one thing, like Blood Swamps was initially like simply guitar, simply, simply bass, and simply drums. And it began, I began including issues in at, uh, after speaking to, um, to Chad and David fairly a bit. The place they’d be like, , “Have you considered any sound design stuff?” I’m like, “Properly, what did you, , what are you considering? Present me the devices that you just’re working with and, , like, let’s simply discuss stuff out.”
We’d have like hour lengthy conversations each single day. And we might all simply study from one another. It was, it was so cool. However, yeah, like Blood Swamps comes from a degree, I simply bear in mind, I’ve to jot down one thing that if that is the one DOOM sport I work on, it must be simply, like, means on the market. Like, I’ve to, I’ve to, I’ve to only take my shot. And it has, I’ve to tear out the entire boundaries which might be like, “Hey, ought to I do that? Shouldn’t I do that? Who provides a f***?” Simply, simply simply write the quickest, most aggressive factor that you can imagine at this time limit, and we’ll go from there. And that’s what, that’s what Blood Swamps was. After which all the pieces else got here after it, I used to be like, “Okay.” It was like, “We are able to do various things now.” You recognize?
TA: I feel you talked about the way you had a number of weeks to do the DLC soundtrack, however since you had the help system of these two, it was all doable in the long run. I feel you talked about that in one of many different interviews.
AH: Yeah, as a result of David was dealing with, like, on the primary DLC, he was dealing with the cutscene work, and he had his personal, like, stuff the place he was engaged on a boss, and a stage, after which I obtained these two ranges, so that they cut up up the work evenly between us on each DLCs. And there’d be so many occasions the place I’d name David or Chad and simply be like, “Hey, how are you doing immediately?” You recognize? And considered one of us could be like, “Oh my God, I don’t know the place to go.” You recognize? And we might simply discuss backwards and forwards, and someway we might give one another concepts. It was magical. Like, it was loopy. Simply after speaking to David, if I had nothing in my head on what I ought to write, after speaking to David or to Chad, I’d be like, “I do know what I must do now.” It was cool.
TA: Going again to IDKFA a bit, you talked about how a lot work you needed to put into revisit and, like, Remaster the unique soundtrack. What did you consider revisiting these songs? Like, did you’re feeling like, , possibly I ought to have finished one thing in a different way? Or had been you want, “No, I’m pleased with this. I simply need to protect it for followers of IDKFA.”
AH: Yeah, it was extra of a, it was a little bit tiny little bit of, “I need to do issues a little bit in a different way.” However, like, I’m speaking to essentially, actually small levels. It was extra about preservation than the rest. And if one thing was being harmful whereas making an attempt to protect it, these had been the issues that I might attempt to eradicate. An instance of that’s there was a whole lot of compression on the unique IDKFA. Simply because I used to be nonetheless in my early 20s at that time, early to mid 20s at that time, mixing in an condo that isn’t, like, acoustically sound or something like that. So I’m making combine choices that aren’t the best, however nonetheless maintain up. Like, that album nonetheless sounds nice, however simply among the compression facet, like, on the grasp of it, is a little bit aggressive.
So once I went again this time round, I really went via each single a type of songs one after the other and simply gave it a little bit bit extra head room, a little bit bit extra respiration room, in order that should you take heed to it sufficient occasions, you’re not going to get, like, ear fatigue or one thing like that. That’s actually what I used to be involved about. And that’s the entire Doom 1 stuff from the unique IDKFA all obtained that remedy the place the edge has been raised just a bit bit in order that it sounds a little bit bit extra open and pure. And I changed a pair snares right here and there, and possibly like a kick drum and a bass, however they’re so small I nonetheless haven’t seen anyone discover them.
TA: It is best to revisit Metallica’s St. Anger and do that for all of the followers.
AH: It’s unimaginable to repair that! laughs There’s been bands which have finished that. I’ve re-recorded that whole document and I see it on YouTube once in a while. I’m like that is… this could have been a cool document if it will have sounded okay, and possibly some construction modifications had been totally different, however yeah, it’s no matter.
TA: I feel when Metallica did Loss of life Magnetic, they’d the Guitar Hero Metallica stems which individuals used to combine it higher than the precise album. How does this preserve occurring?
AH: James attests to it. These guys are so large that they legitimately have remaining say on all the pieces that they do. So every time they’re touring and you have already got Tinnitus and also you’re mixing in a tent, I bear in mind them speaking about “Yeah, no shit, the guitars are shiny.” I used to be listening to mixes in a tent and making combine choices on the highway. I’m like, “Oh, that makes much more sense now.” Like, oh my god. As a result of the Guitar Hero mixes do sound means higher.
TA: This jogs my memory of once I watched Deafheaven and the way superb they sounded dwell. You’ve gotten so many bands that launch albums with brickwall mastering ruining the sound of an in any other case good album. It’s a disgrace that some bands don’t get exterior assist for issues like mastering.
AH: Yeah, it’s…I imply I nonetheless do my very own mastering stuff so I’m the beginning and end with all my stuff however I completely get it every time I see a band that has a document that’s simply utterly smashed. I’m like, “Yeah.” If I used to be only a musician who actually knew tips on how to play guitar and that’s about it or actually knew tips on how to play drums and that’s about it, I perceive how this occurs. It’s only a bunch of men within the room going, “Louder! This must be louder.” laughs
TA: So that you revisited IDKFA’s unique DOOM 1 music, however you additionally did virtually an entire Doom II soundtrack. I feel there was one monitor which was on YouTube or two tracks. Whenever you had been doing these new songs, how did it really feel for you as a result of now you’ve come thus far forward as a musician and did you’re feeling tempted to make it a contemporary Andrew Hulshult album versus making an attempt to be Doom II? How did you strategy that?
AH: Man. This complete IDKFA factor with id’s blessing has been an unbelievable expertise. It appears like I’m closing a chapter of my profession with the followers as a result of IDKFA is what obtained me so many roles and a lot recognition beforehand. Properly, IDKFA and Rise of the Triad, however IDKFA was an enormous one and I nonetheless get individuals which might be like devs that attain out which might be like, “I do know you from the DOOM stuff.” And I’m like, “What? DOOM Everlasting?” They’re like, “No, IDKFA. I performed that DOOM WAD.” And I’m like, “Oh my god.” So I nonetheless get jobs due to that. So every time I sat down… Every time Marty Stratton despatched me an e-mail a few yr and a half in the past to ask if I had time to sit down down at QuakeCon final yr and discuss some issues, I used to be like, “Uh oh. One thing’s both gone terribly flawed or he simply desires to hang around.”
So we sat down and he was like, “Hey.” He’s like, “I’ve an thought.” And I used to be like, “What’s that?” He’s like, “What if we provide you with a license for the DOOM soundtrack for IDKFA in an effort to put that out on the entire streaming platforms your self and do no matter you need and also you give us a license to do with what we’re engaged on, which was the DOOM and DOOM II remasters.” And I used to be like, “That sounds cool.” I used to be like, “I’d like to lastly get that out on official websites and all the pieces.” And he was like, “Oh, it’s superior.” He’s like, “I hoped you’d say that as a result of this could simply be so cool to have this as a selectable factor. Prefer to go from the Bobby Prince to this if individuals needed to.” And I used to be like, “Yeah.” And I’ve been doing that with soundtracks not too long ago in any case.
About midway via that complete factor, we had been simply buying and selling struggle tales in regards to the trade and simply getting alongside. And I used to be having a blast. I used to be considering, “Man, that is actually going to be closing a chapter in my profession.” I used to be getting a little bit emotional. I used to be like, “I’ll inform you what.” I used to be like, “I’ll do you one higher.” I used to be like, “Why don’t we end DOOM II and make it the actual deal?” Individuals have requested for it eternally. I’m like, “That will actually poke my viewers.” They’d be like, “Holy shit! Doom 2 is lastly completed!” And he was like, “For those who’re up for it, yeah, completely.” He’s like, “We’ll get you a license for something that you just do on that as properly in an effort to put that out as properly.”
So, yeah. It was…strolling into doing DOOM II was a lot enjoyable. Each step of the way in which. Adam Pyle, the man that labored with me on Quake Champions, was the man that I bounced all my mixes off of. He instructed me originally, he mentioned, “Hey, , do no matter you need.” He’s like, “It’s you. It’s the explanation individuals need to take heed to it, so I don’t actually have a lot of a say.” I used to be like, “Bullshit!” I used to be like, “You labored with me on Quake Champions. I’m going to bounce each combine that I do off of you, and I need to hear suggestions from you.” It’s like, “I respect your opinion as a result of we obtained stuff like we did on Quake Champions as a result of we talked backwards and forwards.” So we did. I’d ship him… I’d end Working from Evil and ship it to him, and he’d go, “This sounds nice, or, , like, what should you did this?” It was solely a pair occasions the place he was like, “What should you did this?” I used to be like, “Oh!” They had been at all times cool concepts. However I actually respect Adam’s capability to throw out issues once in a while. He’s only a nice particular person to bounce mixes off of. So, simply doing these one after one other and attending to the tip of it.
As soon as it was all wrapped up, I’m not going to lie, as soon as it was all collectively, I used to be simply in my workplace and I used to be like, “Oh my god!” Having a second the place I had a grown man cry the place I used to be like, “I can’t consider that that is occurring. I can’t consider that, primary, I’m going to be a part of the unique DOOM in an official capability. Quantity two, they’re going to ask me to speak at QuakeCon, like, dwell on stage and announce all the pieces. And quantity three, they gave me a license for all these items in order that I can put it out and I can really make some cash off of it. That doesn’t occur with an enormous studio. They don’t simply go, “Right here’s the soundtrack. Have enjoyable.”
I don’t know. It’s simply nonetheless so loopy. It hasn’t actually sunk in for me nonetheless. I’m nonetheless in that bizarre spot the place I’m like, “Yeah, that is on the market. We’re selling it.” And as soon as that’s over, I’m certain I’ll be like, “Oh my god.” You recognize, like, “Holy cow.” However it’s been enjoyable.
The DOOM II stuff, I needed it to be one thing a little bit bit extra contemporary on the place I’m at as an artist. I didn’t need it to be precisely like IDKFA, like the unique DOOM I stuff. As a result of if I had been to do this, I’d have to return and utterly remix all of DOOM I stuff, which I used to be like, “No, that must be preserved. Individuals know what that’s.” So you’ll be able to’t contact that. That’s already finished. So I assumed, “Okay, properly what if I simply gave them how I might do DOOM II proper now?” Which is strictly what it’s. All that stuff is like, “Yeah, f*** yeah.” These are the precise choices that I might make with synths, with guitars, with drums. I feel all the pieces slams. I feel it sounds nice. So it’s only a image from 2011, 2012 with the unique IDKFA. It obtained formally launched in 2016, nevertheless it began engaged on it way back to again. So it’s an image of the place I used to be as a musician, that far again. After which this one is an image of 2024. So that you get it’s form of like a time capsule.
TA: Was The Healer Stalks one of many new songs as a result of it positively appears like fashionable Andrew Hulshult?
AH: Yeah, that was the second written. I feel I virtually went in chronological order doing that whole soundtrack.
TA: You and I’ve each been taking part in DOOM for the reason that 90s. Once I began studying guitar and taking part in loads, I began fascinated about the DOOM soundtrack and among the songs positively have bits that remind me of different band music like Pantera. Whenever you did IDKFA and simply heard the music basically, what did you consider that and the way does it really feel revisiting a few of these songs now? Stuff like A New Degree and This Love from Pantera immediately spring to thoughts.
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AH: Yeah. A few of that stuff’s fairly shut. Like typically, proper? However it’s totally different sufficient the place you’re like, oh, okay. Yeah. However yeah, there’s positively some inspirations that had been taken from like thrash metallic for certain. As a result of I imply, like they at all times talked about Romero having on like Slayer and Metallica and all that stuff like taking part in whereas they had been making the sport. So it solely is smart that they’re like, , hey, make one thing related round this. I don’t know precisely how that story went. I wasn’t there. I used to be like, , I used to be like 4. However that makes full sense in my head. And yeah, going again and listening to them like, yeah, it’s there someplace within the ballpark of it for certain. Like
TA: So after DOOM II, have you ever gotten individuals saying, when are we getting an IDKFA model of Quake and stuff? Since you did one track, proper?
AH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did the theme. I feel I did that only for enjoyable. And I feel I truthfully did that as individuals had been, I noticed a bunch of discussion board posts. It was both discussion board posts or Discord about individuals undecided like about me on DUSK of all issues. Prefer it wasn’t even like a totally introduced sport, however they had been like, “I’m undecided Andrew”. And I used to be like, OK, what? I used to be like, f*** you. I’ll simply remake the Quake theme. And then you definately’ll see if I’m the correct particular person for the f***ing job. laughs And so I put that out and folks had been like, oh, and I bear in mind like a bunch of the feedback had been like, oh yeah, okay, he can work on DUSK.
TA: Do you take heed to that soundtrack typically? The unique Quake?
AH: Oh, man. I don’t take heed to it. Hearken to it. However like each time I’m going fireplace up Quake, which is about like as soon as twice a yr. A bit greater than that if I’m taking part in multiplayer with pals. That’s the factor I stay up for probably the most apart from like the extent design is the soundtrack simply because it’s so on the market. Reznor did such a superb job on that. It’s unbelievable. God, I want it’s a pipe dream, however I’d like to work with him on one thing and Atticus Ross on one thing sooner or later. That will be loopy. However they’re like means up there, .
TA: Their film soundtracks are superb. I’ve really been watching among the motion pictures simply because they’ve finished the music as a result of I feel the audio design in The Social Community is unbelievable. I feel they did just like the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles factor, which I nonetheless want to look at.
AH: It’s so cool when artists step out of their consolation zone like that, the place it’s such as you’re identified for such as you’re indignant and miserable music after which it’s like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It’s like now I’m . Yeah.
TA: Going again to your music, we lined Blood Swamps being the preferred track which individuals deliver up after they meet you and stuff. I noticed this interview with Remaining Fantasy 14’s composer Masayoshi Soken who was requested a few track which he actually favored, however nobody really brings up, and that he thinks deserves extra consideration. He mentioned Recreation Idea. I need to know what’s that for Andrew Hulshult.
AH: Splitting Time. Like everytime you introduced that up, I used to be like, oh yeah, from the AMID EVIL DLC. I imply prefer it’s properly it’s DLC. So like by nature, DLC doesn’t get as a lot consideration, . However just like the AMID EVIL DLC altogether earlier than I discuss in regards to the music, the DLC is unbelievable. Like that’s my that’s considered one of my favourite issues I’ve labored on like in current reminiscence. Like all of the music’s nice. Prefer it was , it was a pleasure to place all of it collectively. All of the sound design, all of the traps and all the pieces. It’s simply an unbelievable DLC. For those who don’t have it, you must go get it. That’s not me shilling and simply oh go purchase the sport. Prefer it’s f***ing superior. They did an unbelievable job.
TA: Everybody can purchase that sport and DLC.
AH: Properly, I don’t need to appear like a shill. For those who prefer it, you prefer it. Like should you don’t, should you don’t dig it, don’t purchase it. You recognize we’re not not right here to love, try to promote a bunch of stuff.
However like splitting time ending up that piece of music. It felt like an actual second the place I don’t know. I felt like form of a shift as an artist the place I used to be. I used to be far more comfy with a whole lot of the extra aggressive sound design parts being blended in with compositions and discovering methods to make them gel higher. And all the pieces actually got here collectively on that monitor and out every time midway via I used to be like, that is the ultimate boss monitor. I used to be like I don’t care what you’re designing. I’m like, that is the ultimate boss monitor. And , two seconds after they began listening to it, they’re like, oh yeah, that is the ultimate boss monitor. We hadn’t even made the character but. I used to be similar to, right here it’s. That one hung round for a very long time. And yeah, that’s I really feel like that track may be very a lot a superb indicator of the place I’m musically proper now.
TA: Now let’s get a bit into the weeds. Let’s discuss your present guitar setup, your pedals, your amps, string gauge, pickups, I need to know no matter you’re utilizing.
AH: So the guitar I’m utilizing probably the most is a Caparison Dellinger 7. I really simply had a pickup swap on it the place I put some Seymour Duncans. I feel I put an SH5 within the bridge and an SH2 within the neck on this one. Particularly as a result of the SH5 on it has a very attention-grabbing factor the place it doesn’t emphasize the low mids a complete bunch however they nonetheless lower via very well. So everytime you’re sitting there and like, , like chugging on stuff and it’s important to monitor that 4 occasions, it simply sits loads higher within the combine than should you had been to only use like inventory pickups. There’s nothing flawed with Caparison inventory pickups. They’re nice. They’re tremendous, tremendous punchy. However for my mixing type I simply, I do know what I need by way of pickups so I simply, I swap these out.
I additionally did the identical factor really final week with the 8 string. This can be a Caparison Brocken 8 string. I don’t assume they make this anymore. I swapped out the pickups on this one as properly to a gosh, what’s it? It’s Duncan. They’re actually, actually well-known 8 string pickups by Duncan. And I can’t bear in mind what they’re referred to as now.
TA: I didn’t know Seymour Duncan even had 8 string pickups.
AH: They do 8 and like, I used to be initially going to get some Fishman Fluences for it as a result of they appear like they’d maintain the highest finish within the midrange a little bit bit higher however after I don’t know, I’ve simply at all times been a Seymour Duncan man. And after discovering a pair that I actually favored at a store referred to as Tone Store up the road from me. I used to be like, man, I actually need to put these in my 8 string they usually have a tech there that’s simply unbelievable at what he does with all my guitars. So I used to be similar to, hey, order these and I’ll simply go away the guitar with you and like every week later they got here again and I used to be like, yeah, that’s precisely what I needed, sounds unbelievable.
I’ve obtained my Caparison 7 and eight, and I nonetheless have all of the guitars that I’ve had over time for probably the most half. I’ve obtained one other Schecter 8 string right here that may be a actually cool shade. It’s tremendous neat, like, it really modifications from blue to purple.
TA: I feel it’s referred to as Prism or one thing like that. John Petrucci has one thing like that on considered one of his guitars.
AH: However yeah, this one has just like the EMGs in it and it’s a cool guitar. It nonetheless performs nice. Like, I nonetheless prefer it. However let me present you one thing that’s really fairly candy. So I nonetheless have, I purchased this in like 2004. And I nonetheless have it. That is the guitar that I really wrote all of IDKFA or most of it on and I wrote all of, I tracked all of Rides of the Triad with. It’s only a Schecter C6. It’s like simply inventory. It even nonetheless has the plastic within the again which is loopy. However yeah, that is like, I nonetheless have this guitar. I used to be like I used to be so near going as much as id, like which is simply on the road for me and being like after IDKFA was completed, I virtually was similar to, right here, you guys, you want this. You recognize, like, maintain on to this or one thing. Like that is the one. However like, I don’t know. It’s not like a mainline DOOM sport, ? Like, it must be one thing like a mainline sport the place I’d be like, I wrote this on this guitar right here. You recognize, if you’d like this, it feels prefer it belongs to you. And in addition, a part of me is like, no, don’t try this. Like, dangle on to it.
TA: Okay now string gauges.
AH: For string gauges, 10 to 59 on 7 strings. And on 8 strings, I feel it’s 10 to 65. After which sometimes on 6 strings, I similar to 10 to 46.
TA: Do you employ D’Addario strings? I exploit them largely.
AH: I exploit D’Addario for probably the most half, however I bounce backwards and forwards typically to Ernie Ball.
TA: What about your amp setup and your pedals and stuff like that?
AH: So amps, I’ve offered virtually each amp I’ve ever owned. I had a JC-120. I had a few these Crate Blue Voodoos means again within the day. Those that had been like, yeah, those that had been, had been mainly copies of these Ampeg tube amps that they made a very long time in the past. I had a Valve State 8100. I had a bunch of amps and a bunch of VHT cupboards as properly too. And I offered all of them years in the past. I’ve actually simply been like working contained in the field for probably the most half with like neural DSP plugins into an RME interface and I additionally went so far as getting considered one of these not too long ago, which is a Neural DSP Quad Cortex. So mainly that is all of their plugins constructed into like a very nice processor. However for a undertaking I’m engaged on not too long ago they had been like, hey you want an amp. And I used to be like, yeah, you’re most likely proper. I do want an amp. So I went and acquired this and I plug it into two 100 watt Seymour Duncan energy levels. Okay.
They’re like, they’re these little tiny like 100 watt energy amplifiers. They’re stable state energy amplifiers. And I run the stereo out from that factor into the left and proper facet of these and people go into two Engel 2×12 cupboards. Which, okay, Engel 2×12 cupboards are superior. Ever since I heard a Rammstein document that used them I at all times needed to seize one as a result of I used to be like, god, these issues sound enormous.
TA: I wasn’t certain about this as a result of a buddy of mine mentioned he was certain AMID EVIL was recorded on an Axe FX Extremely.
AH: Any guitar stuff I’ve finished has used both Native Devices Guitar Rig from means again within the day. Like IDKFA used a ton of Native Devices Guitar Rig 5 and Guitar Rig 4. However just about all the pieces since DUSK has used Neural DSP for guitar work. It’s simply me plugging straight into my RME UFX and typically I’ll use pedals going into it just like the Unique BB Preamp however more often than not it’s only a dry DI sign getting manipulated contained in the field.
So, those that obtained probably the most use on DUSK had been the Moogerfooger low go filter. Consider it or not, like anytime you hear the sound of one thing turning into form of lo-fi or something. It was at all times run via this filter. It was fairly cool. However the factor I like about it probably the most is the drive circuit on it. Like I don’t even prefer it that a lot as like a filter filter. The drive part on it’s simply so aggressive that it’s a very attention-grabbing sound and like that sound that you just hear on the DUSK soundtrack which is like the entire actually excessive excessive finish that’s like actually excessive vitality. It’s virtually just like the 9 Inch Nails stuff. A ton of that comes simply from driving the entrance finish of this factor. And similar means with the Fulltone Catalyst. However yeah, it’s just some of them. I feel there’s yet one more that I exploit loads. I don’t assume I’ve it right here. It’s the ZVEX Fuzz Manufacturing unit which is simply an insane sounding pedal. It simply appears like rubbish. And that’s why I prefer it. It simply appears like you might be destroying a sign which is ideal. I’m cool. That sounds cool. That’s a terrific impact. I like that.
TA: You’ve completed loads in your profession thus far with recognizable music. As a musician, how have you ever been studying to enhance your individual abilities like programming drums, software program, and the way do you stability doing that whilst you have a whole lot of of us who need to work with you on new tasks?
AH: Daily is rather like I don’t know. For those who’re not educating your self one thing day by day, that is my prepare of thought. If I’m not making an attempt to sound higher in my very own head, no matter I feel is best, I’m losing my time. So if I really feel just like the drum package I’ve used like two or thrice on two to 3 totally different information, if I’m like that feels stale. If I then go if it feels stale and I do know the ends and outs of it and tips on how to make it sound good then I want to alter that drum package. I want to seek out one thing totally different and work with it and see if I can get some totally different sounds out of it. So I’ll change devices and simply purposefully put myself in positions the place I don’t know the place I’m at or what sounds good with it simply in order that I can discover my means out of it.
It’s form of like limiting your self, like placing your self in a field that’s actually essential as an artist to just remember to are working inside a sure scope of issues and going hey, , right here’s one thing that’s utterly unfamiliar, get used to it and that is what it’s important to work with. So, yeah, like I don’t know, simply consistently difficult myself is a part of who I’m for probably the most half. So, it’s simply the way it at all times goes.
TA: I’m glad you introduced that particular bit up as a result of in one other interview of yours you talked about how as soon as you bought to your thirties an important factor grew to become getting good sleep which lots of people take with no consideration of their twenties. So my query is that making an attempt to have a routine is essential even should you can’t follow it 100%. What does a day in your life appear like proper now?
AH: A day proper now seems like about, a typical day is about wherever between 6 to 7 hours of sleep which is about what I want I’ve came upon, prefer it’s like someplace round there, typically 8 after which randomly I’ll have days the place it’s like, oh you want like 11 hours I don’t know why, however I really feel high quality waking up utterly recharged with like 6 and a half to 7 and a half hours of sleep. So what I’ll do each morning is I’ll get up, I’ll go take a bathe instantly, like that’s the one means I can begin my day is like I really feel like I’ve obtained to it appears like I’m washing off yesterday I don’t understand how else to clarify that after which I gotta have a espresso after which I gotta begin writing issues on a whiteboard that’s proper over beside me to the left as a result of in any other case I’m simply gonna spin my wheels all day lengthy and assume, oh I ought to do that, I ought to try this, I’ll be fascinated about all the pieces I must do after which by no means really do something. I don’t know if that’s ADD, ADHD or no matter that’s undiagnosed, I’m certain it’s to a point which I’ll get to that sooner or later however till then I’ve the whiteboard and so long as I write stuff down on it on what I need to try this day, I’ll knock all of it out, each single piece of it. However what’s tremendous essential for me to do is simply plan out the day early on after which all the pieces simply involves it afterwards.
The opposite factor that’s form of new for me too is round like 4 o’clock sometimes I’ll now try to do, this has been throughout the final 3.5 months, I’ll try to do about 20 to half-hour of cardio. Simply because I really feel like for some cause elevating my coronary heart charge actually takes me from hey I may focus earlier than to now I’m tremendous laser targeted and might get via no matter I must and it additionally places me in a significantly better temper if I’m having a shit day.
TA: You’ve beforehand talked about that you just love taking part in Cities Skylines. Did you play Cities Skylines 2?
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AH: Yeah, however like I haven’t gone again to it but. I must strive it once more sooner or later. However oh boy prefer it wanted some extra time within the oven every time I attempted it. Like no offense to them. I used to be similar to wow.
TA: I imply you most likely tried it on like your correct gaming PC. I similar to to play Steam video games on a Steam Deck and I may get it at 5 fps or one thing after a little bit of taking part in.
AH: Even with the 3080 I feel I used to be at factors I used to be sitting there at like 35 frames a second. I’m like actually? With the 3080? That is the place we’re at huh? Okay.
TA: Do you continue to play Hunt: Showdown and did you strive the brand new Hunt: Showdown 1896 replace?
AH: Yeah. That they had some actually attention-grabbing decisions with their UI that they only pushed with this one which lots of people aren’t in favor of. I’m getting a little bit extra used to it as time goes on. However man there are some issues they should hammer out with it. However yeah I nonetheless play that like a pair occasions every week with my buddies in New Blood. Like with Dylan who’s engaged on Gloomwood. I’ll play it with David once in a while. I’ll play it with Mason who’s the developer on Religion. Like we’re all, similar to all of us simply hang around. We’re all simply pals. So Leon, me and Leon play it I feel probably the most. Leon’s the lead on AMID EVIL. However yeah like New Zealand and America taking part in a web-based fps sport is a wild factor however now we have a good time doing it.
TA: Earlier than we wrap up, I need to know your favourite bands and artists proper now out and in of video video games.
AH: I’m fairly boring on this one to be trustworthy with you. I must department out a little bit extra. Favourite bands exterior of video video games proper now like for certain they usually’ve sat there for some time is Gojira. I actually like their mixing. I like how tight they’re dwell. I like their decisions on composition. I don’t really feel like they write a foul track. I may throw out the apparent ones. Metallica is one other one simply because James Hetfield’s proper hand is like what impressed me to play guitar. Like how briskly you are able to do these issues is loopy.
Outdoors of or in video video games I’d nonetheless say I nonetheless assume and it’s going to be a bizarre alternative since you’re like properly you write all this aggressive music. What’s Jesper Kyd? That man is rather like nice on all the pieces he touches and all the pieces he touches is at all times distinctive. However I at all times return to his early stuff just like the Hitman franchise as a result of it’s simply so unusual and prefer it actually fits these early video games very well. For those who take heed to it exterior of it, it appears like a very bizarre chilly form of soundtrack. Even from the very first sport which has a whole lot of attention-grabbing issues like virtually drum and bass decisions. It nonetheless appears like a chilly entrance.
You recognize, like a Hitman. And I at all times simply discover that stuff fascinating. How he was in a position to take so many alternative genres of music between all these video games and nonetheless make them match appropriately for that character. So yeah and I feel he labored on the Darktide stuff extra not too long ago which I want to offer a take heed to. All people’s instructed me that’s unbelievable however I don’t know I used to be knee deep in like 4 energetic developments every time that sport got here out. So I simply haven’t given it an opportunity.
TA: Hypothetical state of affairs, should you had no time or finances constraints, should you may compose for any single sport and any single film which might you decide?
AH: So let’s see for any sport if it had the correct path I’d actually prefer to take a shot at like a Duke sport. As a result of I really feel like that’s an IP that may very well be introduced again if it’s introduced again in the correct means. And it’s important to assume that’s actually going to be dictated by whoever the inventive manufacturing is on the time. So if it was finished in the correct means I’d like to step into that.
Both that or I’m going to throw one other one out to you. I’d like to work on Minecraft. Identical to relax . Like simply make one thing that’s utterly chill. So these are utterly two reverse sides of the spectrum.
However so far as a film, man, that’s a terrific query. Let me give it some thought for only a second. Man on Hearth. Like I like Denzel Washington’s work as primary: as an motion hero I feel he’s nice. However quantity two every time he is ready to have sufficient time to place drama into issues. And like both I don’t understand how else to clarify it apart from he does a f***ing loopy implausible job.
Both Man on Hearth or American Gangster. A kind of two soundtracks I feel I may do could be nice to work on. As a result of there’s so many alternative feelings between each of these movies. It’s an enormous curler coaster that doesn’t go up and down as soon as. It goes up and down and does like a loop. And like , it takes you facet to facet. Like each of these movies do that basically properly.
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TA: You’ve gotten a whole lot of bands you’ve been listening to for a very long time like Metallica. What are your ideas on their current or new albums?
AH: I can discover issues I like on just like the information that they put out as a result of like I’m a die exhausting. Even with this final Megadeth document. I may nonetheless discover stuff that I like I can chew on. No drawback. Completely. However these guys aren’t going to jot down like one other Grasp of Puppets. That comes round as soon as in a lifetime. You recognize what I imply? And so they struck it 4 occasions. Like with Kill ‘Em All, Trip the Lightning, Grasp of Puppets and …And Justice for All. So prefer to even simply get that’s loopy. However I do discover issues that I like on all their newer stuff. Like I feel What was the 2016 document that they’d? Hardwired to Self Destruct. Yeah I feel that that really had some actual moments of actually actually good writing on it.
Particularly the final monitor. I felt like Hardwired was a terrific monitor. However I additionally thought Moth into the Flame was written tremendous properly. There’s a handful of simply actually actually actually good writing on that document. On 72 Seasons, there’s nonetheless a handful that I actually like. However they don’t sync as a lot for me. And I’m undecided if it’s as a result of I’m searching for one thing quicker or not. Which that’s simply not the place they’re at for the time being. That’s not what they’re writing. And that’s okay. I’ll say the final monitor on that document I really feel like is ideal. It’s so good. I can’t bear in mind what it’s referred to as off the highest of my head for the time being. I’m horrible with track names typically. It’s loopy. It’s like 11 minutes and it appears like a 5 minute and 30 second track. I bear in mind listening to it the primary time. I used to be like gosh. There’s a lot emotion thrown into this track that it’s only a pleasure to take heed to. I find it irresistible once I can inform that somebody actually dumped all their feelings onto one thing. That’s when it actually strikes a chord for me.
However yeah even the final stuff from Slayer, there’s issues that I can discover that I take pleasure in. however I do know I’m not going to get the revolutionary document that we had rising up. That’s okay. I’m simply glad they’re nonetheless making music. And it’s nonetheless fairly sick.
TA: What’s probably the most random piece of music memorabilia that you just’ve held onto for a very long time?
AH: I had a buddy that I labored with a very long time in the past who fell on exhausting occasions at one level and he was pals and and like labored with Pantera for a very long time. And he was like man he’s like I’m making an attempt to do away with these items I’m like why don’t you simply maintain on to it and like like right here’s right here’s right here’s some money should you want some money to get by. He’s like no no no he’s such as you maintain on to it simply pay me for it. I used to be like okay so I’ve obtained this vinyl of the Nice Southern Trendkill that’s one of many unique vinyl releases, however I even have a plaque that got here prefer it was given to considered one of their both their sound or their lighting crew at one level and it’s like for the tour in Japan for the Nice Southern Trendkill that very same time. And I used to be like the place did you get this like what the hell. And he’s like yeah we simply had him and I knew the man and he had like 5 – 6 of them that they gave him accidentally so he gave me one. I used to be like oh okay all proper. So I’ve each of these issues in my closet they’ve frolicked with me for like gosh I need to say 15 16 17 years now however these previous ones won’t ever go away.
Some individuals preserve costly booze in a decanter. Teah and I preserve hand-crafted chilly brew espresso. pic.twitter.com/7DJlgWcjaB
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) October 10, 2020
TA: Okay for my final query, how do you want your espresso? I often ask this on the finish, however I bear in mind an previous Tweet of yours (linked above) made me much more inquisitive about your reply.
AH: Yeah man I just like the chilly brew stuff. I liked sizzling espresso eternally however like chilly brew I don’t know the longer I’m going the better it’s to only sit on a desk and sip on. I don’t must be like that’s sizzling. I can simply be like no we’re simply getting the entire caffeine all of sudden if I need to. So chilly brew espresso. Chilly brew black.
I’d prefer to thank Andrew Hulshult for his time and assist with this interview over the previous couple of weeks.
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