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Tales of the Valiant, Roll20, and Shard Tabletop


You might or could not have heard that Roll20 had decided that they aren’t going to develop a personality sheet for Tales of the Valiant. This may increasingly not appear to be a giant deal, however which means they aren’t going to help Tales of the Valiant of their character builder, and so they aren’t going to create the brand new stat blocks to indicate up in a personality sheet for the brand new monster stat blocks.

Successfully, nothing absolutely Tales of the Valiant shall be coming to the platform. Sure, this might be disappointing if you wish to use Roll20, however can’t you simply adapt? First, in case you’re like me, you’ve acquired seven merchandise you backed on Kickstarter with Roll20 add-ons.

Now, that will sound again, however a kind of Kickstarters continues to be within the strategy of being produced, in order that’s solely 5 merchandise behind. All of that’s fairly aggravating. However there are a number of mitigating elements, which don’t have something to do with Roll20.

Mitigating Issue Number one

Shard Tabletop and KoboldPress provide a subscription service for entry to Kobold Press’ library on the VTT. For somebody like me, who’s extraordinarily invested within the Roll20 model of those merchandise, this can be a main factor, as we’ll get to in a second.

Mitigating Issue Quantity 2

Kobold Press is permitting folks to reassign their VTT choices, translate their VTT add-ons to retailer credit score or request a refund. None of that is Kobold Press’s fault, so please don’t take any of this frustration as being directed at them.

Roll20 and Implementations

It feels to me like Roll20 introduced this quietly on their Discord, after which left it to Kobold Press to interrupt the information to everybody, which sucks since Kobold Press wasn’t the entity that dropped the ball.

Roll20 has been slowly dropping the ball on many “close to 5e” conversions over the previous few years. They’ve didn’t arrange a separate compendium and specialised character sheet for Esper Genesis. They’ve didn’t implement a sheet for a number of Essence20 video games (G.I. Joe, Transformers) correctly.Additionally they wholly fumbled the rollout of the On a regular basis Heroes line of merchandise. Sure, I do know; within the meantime, the proprietor of that exact product line has set hearth to as a lot goodwill as they may . . . nevertheless . . . that has nothing to do with the truth that Roll20 couldn’t ship.

Roll20 just lately introduced their plans for Demiplane integration, which incorporates sharing content material for some firms throughout what you personal on Demiplane and what you personal on Roll20, in addition to making a “crosswalk” that can permit customers to make use of the character sheet from Demiplane on Roll20.

Demiplane’s character builder was designed to be extra modular and agile when coping with implementing numerous sport parts. One of many video games they’ve talked about making an attempt to work this crosswalk with is Marvel Multiverse RPG.

That’s good as a result of the Demiplane model of the character sheet for Marvel Multiverse RPG is a lot better than the Roll20 model. The character builder is miles forward, as a result of it’s laborious to know why it’s a must to make selections on the Roll20 sheet, and it’s tougher to switch present sheets.

I say all of this not as a result of I’m not extremely aggravated at Roll20, however as a result of I need to be truthful and level out that they’ve a number of irons within the hearth. All that mentioned, something 5e adjoining can be sacrificed on the altar of getting the 2024 character sheet to work.

Private Axes to Grind

It’s not the primary time I’ve had one thing I backed get both nuked or delayed for a number of years as a result of it was extra essential to chase large cash than to meet a promise by an RPG-related firm, and I assume that’s “regular” in capitalism, however its by no means enjoyable to know you aren’t the precedence.

Particularly while you did spend a not insignificant sum of money on a challenge that will not make the corporate as a lot cash as one other challenge, however nonetheless price you the identical quantity no matter their return on funding. However I’m letting a wee little bit of my annoyance at one other scenario to bleed in.

The very last thing I needed to the touch on is my present funding. A number of years again, I checked out Shard Tabletop, and regardless that I didn’t do a deep dive till just lately, even again then, I used to be satisfied a devoted 5e SRD website was a lot better for working the sport than an “all the pieces” website.

Choice Factors

From the time I checked out it then, to now, Shard has solely gotten higher at implementing how 5e video games ought to run. I don’t anticipate that they may work for everybody, however for a way my mind works and for a way I play and run video games, I’m a lot happier with how Shard works.

Nonetheless, once I was ramping as much as transfer my video games on-line, one of many concerns I needed to make was how all the fabric I needed to make use of would work together. Regardless of liking the interface on Shard higher, I opted for Roll20, as a result of I couldn’t get official WotC materials on Shard.

I may get extra of my 5e third social gathering materials to work natively with WotC D&D materials, so I felt like, finally, I needed to go along with the much less splendid interface for better flexibility. So, regardless that I used to be tempted to go along with Shard for my Kobold Press purchases, I didn’t.

My present marketing campaign is a 2014 5e sport set in Kobold Press’s Midgard setting, the place a lot of the gamers have choices from prolonged 3e WotC merchandise, so it’s not like I haven’t benefited from having all of that working collectively on one website.

However, if Tales of the Valiant, regardless of being comparable and suitable, goes to be a system that’s solely absolutely supported on one other website, I would like entry to all the pieces I can at present use with 5e. Fortunately, the Shard Tabletop Kobold Press subscription permits this.

On Digital “Possession”

I might a lot quite “personal” all the pieces I “personal” on the positioning the place I take advantage of the fabric. I can’t rely on Kobold Press or Shard infinitely providing the subscription mannequin, and as soon as it’s gone, that’s a number of materials that I don’t have entry to anymore.

Insert [the risk of any particular digital platform closing and you loosing access to things you’ve purchased], I do know, I do know. However a subscription being discontinued looks like a extra rapid concern than a complete website disappearing. The factor that crystallized my frustration at this example was placing all the pieces from Kobold Press that I personal in Roll20 right into a spreadsheet and seeing what it could price me really to personal all of that materials on Shard. That involves nearly $900. Ouch.

I do know it’s a threat you are taking within the trendy period, with a lot content material that exists “just about” or as a service. I’m pleased that Shard Tabletop and Kobold Press do provide the subscriptions they provide, so I can run video games on the positioning with the entire issues I’m used to utilizing.

However wow, do I want I may return to me a number of years in the past, beginning to ramp up my on-line sport supplies and inform previous me, “no, you possibly can’t hold all the pieces on one platform, so it’s possible you’ll as nicely go along with the platform you get pleasure from utilizing quite than the one with extra choices.”



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